COMUNIDAD DE PROPIETARIOS DE HACIENDA ELVIRIA
President Report 30 January 2.010
Reference: Painting issues raised by Peter Roos (B32 Ap4)
On the 18th January 2010, Peter Roos sent an e-mail to numerous owners of
properties in Hacienda Elviria, Titled ; “Important to all owners who have not replied
plus photos” It should be said that this communication was not sent to any of the
board, all of whom are owners and whose e-mail addresses are known to the
author.
This e-mail had attached to it 40 photographs that presumably he had taken
showing various aspects of the painting project being undertaken in Hacienda Elviria
below, in this report we will go into each one giving complete information about the
content and implications.
We wish to emphasise that we believe we have put in place a good contract with
necessary safeguards as described in my recent publication to owners, let me
remind you that from the total cost of one block the 10% is kept one year for
unforeseen defects.
We wish to emphasise that we are not defending the painting company, contrary to
the many e-mails from Peter Roos that have implied this.
We believe that the involvement of the Peter owner list “ POL “ they named “action
group” at the outset was constructive.
We on the board are all owners too and want the best for our community as well as
for ourselves.
We now believe that the leader of that “POL”, Peter Roos, is going far beyond the
original intentions of the group. In our view, as you can see below some examples,
he is supplying owners with inaccurate and misleading information about the
painting project. Most of these owners are not actually here to form their own view
of the work and are therefore inclined to believe everything that Peter wishes to put
into his communications.
The truth is being massaged for what intent? We believe that the POL group are
moving for a change of management and as Peter has already stated, he is willing
to be vice president. Why not the president? By the way, we had a meeting in
August (Terry, Peter, Dave C and me) in the PUB of Alanda Resort and he asked to
be with me also vice president.
If at the AGM the owners wish is for a change in management so be it, we will
gladly respect the wish of the owners and stand aside. It is not as if we are highly
paid executives, we are just owners who also wish the best for our community and
ourselves. Why would we wish to manage a project to the detriment of ourselves?
We also believe that the POL group were somewhat disappointed that we did not
choose one of the companies that they obtained quotes for. Our methodology and
reasons for selecting the present company were completely transparent and made
public, we must point out that one of the members of the “Selection Team” was
suggested by POL group. Yet in at least one e-mail circulated on the 11th January by
Peter Roos there was a carefully guarded innuendo as follows;
BUT not one of the companies we had found were invited to attend the interview...and
the contract was awarded to pintugarvi, who had suddenly dropped their first quote by
over 100,000 euros. Make your own suppositions on that.!!!!!
We clearly take exception to such a suggestion that any of us have benefited financially in
any way from either the awarding of the contract or the acceptance of anything than the
proper execution of the contract terms. We shall continue to monitor any such suggestions
with vigilance.
It would be thought, that to get a discount is something to be celebrated but on the contrary it
is suggested there is something in the shadow. Of course the “crisis” helped us, to understand
the process. Just as an example, imagine you are right now trying to sell your apartment you
will face a very high difficulty for selling and you have to offer a discount of more that 20%,
but you are selling your apartment not another with poor quality.
We also believe that Peter Roos has adopted this hostile approach because of his personal
dislike of Senor Manuel Ramirez, the person chosen to supervise the day to day activities of
the painters and the security of our products as well as communication back to the board on
such matters. We also believe that this is not just Peter´s view alone and that it is driven by
others around him. So be it. We were elected to manage your affairs to the best of our ability
for one year and that is what we are doing. We shall answer for our actions at the next AGM
with complete openness and pride.
There is much more to managing a community than just one project as our successors, if that
is what happens, will soon find out. It is a shame that one man has taken on the role of
bringing unrest to the community and finds it necessary to manipulate the facts in order to do
so. Is this a man for future office?
It seems that the sun returns: it has been raining from December 18, 2009. The works have
been delayed; some repairs will be needed due to filtrations and floods. When the Meeting is
celebrated I hope that everything continues well.
"See you soon".
Felix Diaz
And here we have the set of photograph with the comments.
The board of management have looked at these photographs and for ease of
identification we have numbered them and put them under various subject
headings as follows:
- Alleged bleeding and shade differences. 11 photographs
- Flakes, peeling and blisters. 7 photographs
- Workmanship. 8 photographs
- Cracks, bandages and chips. 6 photographs
- Painting and preparation of green ironwork. 3 Photographs
- Other matters. 7 photographs.
Alleged bleeding and shade differences
We agree that there should not be any bleeding or shade variations at all. We do
not know when these photographs were taken although we are fairly sure that they
relate to work done or being done at the beginning of the project in blocks 31 to 34
in that order.
Following publication of these photographs we shall be conducting an inspection
when the weather allows and we shall report our findings. If we find the photographs
are representative of the current situation this would be unacceptable and correct
remedial action will be insisted upon. Remember we hold 10% of the cost for just this
sort of eventuality.
Flakes, peeling and blisters.
This subject is similar to the one above. However there is one difference. Since the
18th December 2009 we have experienced almost continual heavy rain, so much so
that all the reservoirs are now full. This is unheard of. Peeling and blisters to paintwork
nearly always occur from underneath the paint by the existence of water or damp.
Therefore there must be ingress of water that is causing this problem. We shall
inspect such areas if they still exist and try to discover the cause.
Now whether that cause falls within the remit of the painting contract we shall have
to wait and see when the conditions for proper inspection are available.
Photographs 13 and 15, shows flaking on the top surface of a garden wall. This
subject is already known to the board and is due to the top surface being finished
with apoxy resin. The weather influence and the way of painting or even the
painting material is under consideration and a remedy is being sought.
Again, just the sort of reason why the retention of 10% was part of the payment
protocol of the contract.
Workmanship
All 8 photographs demonstrating this issue clearly indicate a standard of
workmanship that is well below that expected. We are convinced that the painters
themselves would have to agree this too.
However we do not know at this moment in time at what stage of the project these
photographs were taken and whether these situations still exist. We shall investigate
and report accordingly.
Cracks, bandages and chips
The four photographs submitted do seem to indicate matters to be looked into.
However, we have to separate out the 3 subjects from each other.
Cracks; There are two different sorts of cracks, structural and superficial.
With structural cracks, usually the larger ones, these are knocked out and
filled/rebuilt.
With superficial these are filled with the SIKA products.
Of course some smaller cracks can be missed but where detected they will be redone.
Bandages; Bandages can be an acceptable repair in certain instances, but many if
not all of the bandages that were previously applied to the current painting project
are being removed and the crack repaired under the criteria above. This especially
applies to the bandages that were applied and painted white by Thomas Graham.
Our painters who are experts in their field will decide which other bandages are to
be removed or are satisfactory.
Chips; Damage occurs to buildings especially the edges and corners of walls at any
time. That does not mean that the painter caused them.
With some of the photographs that Peter has submitted relating to chips, it is known
that these were caused during work in the penthouse of block 32 after the block
had been painted. This has been previously discussed at meetings with Peter and
Dave Chacksfield and was explained that these would be repaired and repainted
at the cost of the owner. However the weather has so far not allowed all these snags
to me done. We believe that it is misleading and mischievous of Peter to have
included such photographs just to try and emphasise his cause, whatever that
maybe.
Preparation and painting of green ironwork.
As far as we are aware the 3 photographs published by Peter Roos are of his own
apartment.
He and David Chacksfield brought this subject to our attention almost as soon as the
work had been done.
As a result of an inspection immediately after this, it was recognised that the paint
we were using by recommendation, was not drying properly. As a result a new more
expensive paint was identified for use on this contract. Peter and Dave were
informed of this together with the fact that it had been agreed that all areas
painted with the faulty paint would be re done. This has also been advised to all
owners. Yet peter insists on sending out old photographs with no explanation of the
meetings and decisions to which he was present and informed. We are waiting for
the correct weather conditions for the re-painting to be done.
In principle with iron work it should not be necessary to completely strip off the old
paint and the primer beneath. It is sufficient to identify which areas of the ironwork
are in poor condition, especially joint areas where rust can show. These areas should
receive special attention in the re-preparation and renewal of the primer before
painting. Ironwork painted with the new paint has not shown the same symptoms
and is producing much better results.
We should also point out that the painting of garage doors was not part of the
specification. The garage doors were painted less that two years ago with same
principle as described above and we do not recall one complaint about that work.
Other matters 7 photographs
The first 4 photographs are of an area above the garage entrance to blocks 31-34.
This matter was discussed face to face with Peter and David very early on in the
project.
The subject was immediately pointed out to the painting contractor and corrected.
Why now in late January is Peter including such photographs in his communication
with owners?
Another photograph number 37 in the attached appendix titled “How can we be
signed completed" shows the retaining wall coming up from the entrance to blocks 31 and 32.
As you will see considerable work has been done to this wall to make it suitable for
painting.
Again a meeting was held with Peter and David at this wall in mid December and it
was explained that the wall had not dried sufficiently for the wall to be painted. Also
the terraces were also being repaired at that time to rectify the cause of the water
getting into the wall in the first place.
Peter and David were content at that time with this explanation, since when it has
rained virtually continuously and so it still has not been painted. This photograph
actually demonstrates the amount of preparation that the painters are doing. So
why has Peter included this photograph to the owners about the painters alleged
bad work?
Photograph number 38 shows a small step in the terrace leading to the entrance to
all apartment blocks. The edge of these steps was painted yellow about a year ago
to indicate a safety hazard to pedestrians. The re-painting of the yellow forms no
part of this ongoing contract at all, so why are owners being asked to form a view
about the painters on something they have not done.
Photograph 39 demonstrates a broken tile to a terrace of a garden apartment. The
innuendo is that this was broken by the painters we presume. This is a very bad
assumption to make unless Peter has actual first hand knowledge as to how the tile
was broken. Why does he do this?
Lastly photograph number 40 is titled “used as a paint store now lock broken”.
It shows the corner of the outside cupboard door to the water metres where I agree
the painters did store their paint after work each day. The part of the wall keeps
breaking because the frame of the door is not fixed securely into the wall, causing
vibration. In fact the painters have repaired this wall more than once with the same
result. It is up to us the committee to repair the frame of the door not for the painters
to be accused of poor workmanship as this photo implies.
Peter Roos Painting issues.
Part 1 Alleged bleeding of paint and shade differences.11 Photographs of
unidentified areas. Presumably in,the region of Blocks 31 to 34.
 | Photo 1 Two Shades |
 | Photo 2 Two shade of Pink |
 | Photo 3 Contrast in Colour |
 | Photo 4 More bleed through |
 | Photo 5 More contrast in colours |
 | Photo 6 More white coming through |
 | Photo 7 Pink paint where should be white |
 | Photo 8 Speaks for itself 2 |
 | Photo 9 White coming though to interior |
 | Photo 10 Speaks for itself. |
 | Photo 11 Front of my balcony |
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Part 2 Flakes, peeling and blisters. 7 photographs indicating this factor
 | Photo 12 2nd time blistering white paint between 3 & 4 block32 |
 | Photo 13 Flake & Peel all along garden wall |
 | Photo 14 Blistered Paint |
 | Photo 14 A White coming through |
 | Photo 15 More flake and peel |
 | Photo 16 Pillar apt2 Block 32 |
 | Photo 16A White blee |
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Part 3 Workmanship. 8 photographs
 | Photo 17 Sloppy work |
 | Photo 18 Paint splodges not cleaned and bleeding |
 | Photo 19 More missed spots |
 | Photo 20 Paint not cleaned up |
 | Photo 21 Looks poor |
 | Photo 22 Not fully painted white missed. |
 | Photo 23 very poor pillar base |
 | Photo 24 Also looks poor |
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Part 4 Cracks, bandages and chips. 6 photographs
 | Photo 25 Cracks not filled |
 | Photo 26 Bandage sticking through |
 | Photo 27 Half way up post caused by painter. |
 | Photo 28 More untreated cracks |
 | Photo 29 One of many chips |
 | Photo 30 Many chips caused by painters hoisting to penthouse. |
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Part 5 Painting and preparation, of green ironwork. 3 photographs
 | Photo 31 Two colours on my grill |
 | Photo 32 Rust on my grill |
 | Photo 32A Bubble and rust on my grill |
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Part 6 Other matters. 8 photographs.
 | Photo 33 Two Shades of paint above garage 31-34 |
 | Photo 34 Above garage door Blocks 31-34 |
 | Photo 35 Over garage door Blocks 31-34 |
 | Photo 36 Garage door not painted and pink |
 | Photo 37 How can we be signed completed? |
 | Photo 38 Not painted at all |
 | Photo 39 Broken tile in front of empty apartment |
 | Photo 40 Used as paint store now lock broken |
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